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Red Cross Dual Special by MeckanicalMind Red Cross Dual Special by MeckanicalMind
Bare with the zany mechanics here...

UPDATE: Due to popular criticism, I'm going to go ahead and say, despite what the gun says on its shell, it is a prototype that uses .223, and is the base prototype that could you can exchange the barrel/firing mechanisms be able to switch the type of ammo. Any further question of the Sci Fi /cool design excuse can be referred to Judge Dredd's weapon. It has all kinds of ammo types. I should really just rename the gun "the Controversy". I really do appreciate all the feedback though! Thanks!

Dual functioning long and short ammo weapon. Designed for one weapon to carry both ammo types for long and short range combat. Also using only 1 barrel they can both feed into. Using a magical mechanism for the forward rounds that seals the barrel up when not in use. It's sci fi, deal with it.

Based on a 3D rough you can find on my blog :[link]
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:iconjoneshenry72:
joneshenry72 Featured By Owner 3 days ago  New Deviant
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megadolon013 Featured By Owner May 5, 2015
   I see real potential for this.  Who knows maybe someone in the weapon industry will use this design for real.  I just hope when this happens, you get the royalties!!!
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Darkchop Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2015
I tend to think that combination weapons are an answer to a question that no one has really asked.  That said, something like this might be better in a caliber combination of integrally suppressed 300 Blackout on top, and something like the Bofors 6.5x25 CBJ on the bottom.

From a purely aesthetic perspective, I am still drooling on myself (mentally).  This is excellent work.  Well done!
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:iconreborn-taltos:
Reborn-Taltos Featured By Owner Feb 24, 2015
This gun would be awesome in fps games!
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:iconfreelancer521:
Freelancer521 Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
Very cool concept design, love the detail!
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:icon1somerandomguy1:
1somerandomguy1 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2014
So that's where the 9/11 relief fund went.
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:iconadinosupremacist:
aDinoSupremacist Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Reminds me of the KRISS Vector
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:iconwolfsalvo:
Wolfsalvo Featured By Owner Sep 17, 2013

It's not sci-fi; if you can figure out the proper mechanisms and have an internal computer or higher functions, you can have the gun shoot as fast as a P90, while using both clips. Yet the faster the gun fires, the more the accuracy decreases as the recoil throws off the persons aim. its basic logic, but guns aren't made like this because of the fact that it wouldn't be ideal to be in combat and need to change one or 2 different magazines of different caliber/ magazine sizes.

 

Either way, this is looking really nice!

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GUZMAN-TANCO Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2013
great general, I also try with a pair of silencers because I see a good place ahead
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:iconsomeone1fy:
someone1fy Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2013
So how many rounds in those two of magazines and which kind of bullet that gun used?
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:iconge-nre:
Ge-nre Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013  Professional Filmographer
its like MP7A2. freaking awesome
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:icongraphicartmarketusa:
GraphicArtMarketUSA Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2013  Professional Artist
Can i make a working version in real life with your permission
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Streaked-Silver Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
so ... the long round passes through the .. bolt and chamber of the short round? ..what? it LOOKs sound.. till you add the second mag in there and try and pass it on the same barrel
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TheAsterite Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013
No, no, no, no! The short round passes through the long round's barrel, just like how 7.62 rifles can fire 5.56 rifle rounds, albeit inaccurately.
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Streaked-Silver Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
but you need a bolt group and extractor AND chamber space in that area of the rifle, Like i said, it looks sound till you add in the second source, It would not work..
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BETA368 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2013
This would actually be nice RL concept for home defense, albeit without the alternate ammo, and maybe a ton of conversions, for just about any common cartridge. A nice economic gun, with a nice economic look.
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:iconmrabudi:
mrabudi Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
really cool gun and idea!
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:iconbeefers:
beefers Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I like the concept and the design regardless of whether the physics are correct or not :D
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:icontomsymonds:
tomsymonds Featured By Owner Feb 26, 2013  Professional Artist
I would like 2 of these! great work.
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:iconbaremoon39:
Baremoon39 Featured By Owner Feb 11, 2013
i like it , cool looking
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:iconderoos100:
deRoos100 Featured By Owner Jan 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Just say that the forward chamber uses a falling block action and the whole gun uses caseless ammunition :)
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:iconbramindrawan:
bramindrawan Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
nice work.

do you receive purchase from Indonesia?
I want make order for ten...
BOXES!
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:iconcityofthesouth:
cityofthesouth Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
very cool
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:icons620ex1:
s620ex1 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Haters gonna hate.

That's a fuckin cool design!
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:iconterraxlorche:
TerraxLorche Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Who says it has to be a mechanical trigger? Electro-thermal induction rim-fired ammo would be acceptable in a sci-fi based weapon. Minor drawback however the weapon would need a power pack... which could be housed in the Magazine btw...
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:iconbeadedgreenlizard:
BeadedGreenLizard Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
even if its chambered in 22l/22s i'd still buy it!
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templar127 Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013
NICE!
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:icondroidops:
DroidOps Featured By Owner Dec 14, 2012  Student Artist
I Would love to make a game with all your 3D weapons

After collage.
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:iconnovaregul:
NovaRegul Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012
Very cool!
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Skorpion66 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student Interface Designer
I've been with the Red Cross for a while, but I've never been issued one of these lol
Anyways, great work! I really like the lighting/shading!
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:iconedgarlee:
edgarlee Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
awesome :D
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:iconmikvance:
mikvance Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
This looks hella cool, despite "the controversy" :D
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:iconcanadian-weapon338:
canadian-weapon338 Featured By Owner Nov 29, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
well done bud well done
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:iconultimaweapon13:
UltimaWeapon13 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh, the thought just crossed my mind:

This gun could be used in Post-apocalypse by the Red Cross, who act as Battle Medics. Hehe.
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UltimaWeapon13 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sweet Maker this is amazing.
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Shockwave9001 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What a GREAT design! Love the dual rounds and the very simple holographic sight!
Oh, and the red lines up front <3
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NikitaTarsov Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Looks great.
And btw i donīt think that there is much magic needet to make such a idea runnig.
I really like the "click-to-decompose" detail:)
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:iconmasonamon:
Masonamon Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
3 words and 3 words only: Like a boss! :D
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:iconczechbiohazard:
CzechBiohazard Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like the concept. Your render of the firearm is amazing. :3
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:iconedxcal:
EdXCal Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012
There was a weapon attachment for the old M1903 that allowed it to use 9mm pistol ammo in semi auto, you removed the bolt and added this device. Maybe you could try something like that? Otherwise I like the look and idea of the weapon.
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ikarus-tm Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
beautiful
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soulburn3d Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Love the update. I did some gun designs myself and got a LOT of feedback (like dozens and dozens of suggestions). For whatever reason, weapon designs garner a lot of feedback from people. Best to just incorporate as many ideas as possible in an update and then take the advice for the next project.
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EricJ562 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Or you could make it bullpup and go long .223, that'd be cool too...
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:iconericj562:
EricJ562 Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Then again... if you make it two barrels (keep it simple), you'd make a better OICW that's for sure. and resculpting the design wouldn't be too much of an issue either.
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SamuraiBobX26 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I really do love the look of the weapon but I agree with a few of the critiques of the design:

First, .22lr and 22short woudl be useless in a design of this awesomeness. If I am going to weild a Cool weapon like this 5.56 and 9mm would be the way to go. it already look sliek it oculd have 2 different barrels so why not?

Second, It would now need 2 harging handles and 2 ejection ports for spent rounds.

Third, Your bullpup design is awesome and the colors are spectacular.

Makes me want to figure out the mechanics of something like this and see if it could work.
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kiolia Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
This could easily work as-described.

The forward breech just needs to be a separate block with a regular .22 breech on one side and a through-barrel on the other side, with the centerlines separated by maybe .3-.5". This block can slide (or possibly "rock", pendulum-fashion, from a pivot above and between the breech and through-barrel) a short distance side-to-side to align either the breech with the forward magazine and barrel, or the through-tube with the barrel (allowing rounds from the rearward breech to continue on their way). Now ... this does get hairy when considering that the whole mechanism needs to recoil, too. Really, considering how little .22 rounds are, I don't see why the maintenance headache would be worth adding compared to an under/over -- not much barrel separation anyway. I understand, though, that that's not the point! Cool design :)
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Shimmering-Sword Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
All successful (< keyword here) firearms are built on a strict principle of elegant simplicity, to the point where single moving parts often do several jobs. It's quite mind boggling how efficient they are. This weapon reverses that, 2 parts (2 loading mechanisms) to do one job, which also adds even more engineering nightmares and almost unavoidable structural issues that will affect weapon performance.
A few much more elegant solutions to firing 2 rounds from one gun are
- Just use 2 barrels, you're adding all these parts and complexity, why not just add a barrel.
- Design the barrel breech to accept different lengths of casing in a way requiring no barrel or bolt change. Just change the magazine.

This is like the artist says, a "scifi deal with it" gun. There is no practical real world solution to this that isn't better solved another way. Us gun purists just don't see the point of even going that far though, when anyone would enjoy this design just as much only firing one caliber.
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kiolia Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
No argument here -- of course it's not practical. I was mostly considering the interesting (to me) problem of how the mechanism might be dealt with given the requirement of tandem magazines.

If all you wanted to do was fire different-size .22 rounds from the same gun, you could -- surprise! -- go get pretty much any .22 on the market right now. I have never used a .22, either pistol or rifle, that couldn't at least chamber shorts and LRs with no mods whatsoever. If you really wanted to, you could easily design a mechanism with side-by-side magazines and a breech that could toggle to feed from either one, especially in such an anemic caliber as .22 where you could practically get away from making the breech from GRP. The bigger issue with such a gun is that it's a solution without a problem -- nobody needs a machine pistol chambered in two versions of .22! Unless you have a REAL squirrel problem, I guess.

If you're a gun purist, then the only aesthetic is function, and the simpler and more robust the design by which that function is accomplished, the better. This doesn't mesh that well with gun concepting from an artist's perspective, if you think about it. But something like this is a lot more interesting to consider than a real-life "pimped" AR with two kinds of lasers and a scope and a flashlight on the rails.
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:iconpassin:
Passin Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Cool look, even if it doesn't work
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olbertus Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Saying "its sci fi, deal with it" sounds like a cop out for lazy design, which this clearly is not. Having said that, it makes zero sense mechanically, unfortunately sci fi or not. Lose the mag at the rear (which has no space to cycle rounds anyway) and its a sweet SMG/ PDW style weapon. Maybe the stock could be modified to be a length of pull adjustable type or could house a spare magazine.
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